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president obama or newly elected president romney, deal with it in the winter in a substantive way, going so far as to reform the tax code, everything you want. do you think that's what's going to happen? >> i think that could happen, regardless who is president because the markets are going to begin to rattle their chains, it will be like a dungeon, say, look. >> why haven't they rattled? >> they're waiting for this to pass. >> anything could happen. >> they look at america as some the stupidest people on earth if they're going to let go over the cliff when you have a mindless sequester of 600 billion on defense, 600 billion with an ax, they're going to say you're dysfunctional and we want more money for our money and inflation kicks up and the guy that gets hurt the worse, the little guy that everybody talks about day and night. >> a funny thing happened on the way to the debate. neither candidate getting a question on that fiscal cliff. and so, if they are talking about it, as a time for taxpayers to start worrying about it? to ben stein, gerri willis and ben stein and charlie gasperino.
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offered a plan, president obama hasn't done any of that. he disavowed bowles simpson and offered all the it i haves -- alternative plans. the even bowles simpson, it didn't address the primary driver of our debt. health care programs. starting going bankrupt. i don't want a pass a bill to fix the fiscal crisis when i know it doesn't fix the fiscal crisis. >> neil: he's saying it didn't go far enough. charles payne, ben stein, dagen mcdowell and adam lashinsky and charlie gasperino. >> i think it was a good place to start, to ryan's point, it was with respect to social security or medical spending, you know, and the ideal spending cap. if we adhere to spending caps we wouldn't be in this position in the first place, so i take his point although i think it would have been a good starting point for everyone to say, okay, let's start with this and then go from there. ben stein? >> we've gotten ourselves into a such a deep hole and everyone wants to avoid tax, tax, tax, we can't. yes, they've got it cut it, and going to have to do financials, we don't want to do it, we've got to. >> neil: